Unreal Engine 3 coming to iPhone 3GS/iPod Touch 3G?! WOW!!

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  1. dogmeat

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    Yes, and for me, I'd rather actually get up and pretend and use my actual brain and imagination instead of sit here, staring at a box of light change colors.

    Instead, we let someone else decide what our mind should see, hear and feel based on their requirements.
     
  2. Mr. Crazy

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    I hate to tell you this dogmeat, but pac man and them kind of games are past there time, it's not what the new gamer wants, the new gamer wants 3D and all that. You just can't take it that the pac man days have gone.
     
  3. dogmeat

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    yeah, this is what I keep failing to understand.

    Maybe I just need to shut my mouth and accept the fact that you new youths are taking over.

    Getting old sucks, there was a reason for people to die young long ago..

    and it's not that I don't want to conform and go with the flow, it's that I can't

    please tell me there are others that feel the same way?
     
  4. squarezero

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    Do you ever read a book? Because that also involves someone else deciding what your mind should see. Ever look at a painting? Same thing. Ever go to the movies? Bingo.

    As someone who makes his living by being creative, I see nothing wrong going along for the ride every once in a while. A good game (or movie, or book) takes you somewhere interesting, fun, and exciting. A bad one just bores and/or annoys you. I'm smart enough to tell one from the other.
     
  5. dogmeat

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    I agree with you, but the difference is that video games, most of the time, are badly written.

    Unless you have a good example?
     
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    This is a stupid argument... if things didn't get better than there would be no point. If games stayed 2d theres only so much you can do before you have to start something new. To keep everything 2d would ruin all uniqueness any game ever tried to achieve. Theres no point of trying if your not gonna try for something better. As you get older your going to have to realize that things will change, and maybe not to your liking but it has to happen
     
  7. MasterChief3624

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    Holy crap... if this means we may very well be getting an Unreal Tournament/Unreal Championship on iDevices...

    :eek:

    I would be so happy if that were the case :cool:
     
  8. squarezero

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    This issue has come up before, but you asked:

    Silent Hill II. One of the best horror stories in any form.

    Deux Ex: Great paranoid fiction. Pretty much predicted the world after 9/11 (in a exaggerated fashion, of course, but still). A game in which moral choices have real consquences.

    Bioshock: A devastating anti-Ayn Rand argument in the form of an FPS.

    I'm sure there are many others -- people usually chime in when this issue comes up.
     
  9. Outkast1

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    The final fantasy games are well written and have unique, immersive stories.
    Chrono Trigger
    Secret of Mana
    Even the new Uncharted Games have good stories if you want a more modern example.

    They may be few and far between, matter of opinion I suppose, but they're out there. I understand what you're saying and as someone having a hard time aging myself ( :) ) I can see where you're coming from. Just gotta take the bad with good I suppose.
     
  10. dogmeat

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    how about we name some "modern games" from say, the last 4 years?
     
  11. MasterChief3624

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    You need to play way more games if you're saying that.

    Metal Gear Solid series
    Okami
    Final Fantasy X
    Final Fantasy VII
    Golden Sun
    Uncharted
    Indigo Prophecy (aside from the ending)
    inFAMOUS
    Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
    Advent Rising
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    Planescape: Torment

    ...and there are way more where that comes from.
     
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    I also want to mention with books you were still forced to use your imagination, same with painting.

    But in games, everything is provided for you, just like in jail.
     
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    -Every BioWare game.

    Also Uncharted 2 was pretty much the best single player campaign of any video game I've ever played.
     
  14. MasterChief3624

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    You could use the same argument for movies. But just like movies, some games have deep subtleties that aren't hand-fed to you, especially in games coming out in this day and age. There's more reading between the lines with certain games over the past couple generations that was unheard of before.
     
  15. dogmeat

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    Trust me, I have the same problem with movies. Avatar anyone?

    I'll take 12 angry men over Avatar any day.
     
  16. Outkast1

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    Uncharted 1 and 2
    Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (imo at least, don't know how others feel)
    Spider: The Secret of Bryce Manor
    Eternal Sonata
    Fallout 3
    Assassins Creed
    FF XII
    Oblivion
     
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    It should be added that unlike books, movies, paintings, etc, great games allow you to make choices -- sometimes practical, sometimes moral -- that have real consequences.
     
  18. MasterChief3624

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    Very good point. They add a much bigger feeling of immersion that is unmatched in other art mediums (as of right now).

    I feel that if 3D does catch on as fast it seems to be, though, movies will start inching there a bit more. However, I don't think they'll ever compete with videogames in terms of interactivity. That's one of the things games have over movies... interactivity.
     
  19. CaptainAwesome

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    I completely agree. There are too few people like Walt Disney and Henson in the world today. (Not that many of Disney's creations were exactly original, but close enough....)

    I really hope that the creation of an engine like this can help developers focus on quality more. The voice acting in Gameloft's games makes me want to puke every time I turn up the volume. And perhaps an original, compelling story can be conjured up in the time that would have been used to develop the gameplay aspects.

    Or Gameloft will just crank out ten games a month with the same crap-content instead of five. Whichever comes first.

    It's times like these that I wish Bioware would hop on the iPhone bandwagon a make a game that's actually worth something.
     
  20. dogmeat

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    I wish the original Interplay would come back. Now that was a development house.
     

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