when you hit someone waking up with the last active frames of a move, giving you more frame advantage. You see sagats do a meaty cr lk all the time, especially against characters with a reversal thats at least 7 frames, for example viper.
Ah Damn. Up against a beastly Dhalsim my first match. I am not equipped for this.. :| Hey Ken Ken, i will send you a GC invite pretty soon, maybe we can get connected sometime before that deadline man...
Hi nice to fight you . Sorry I quit after one game. It was just too much lag in the end. Maybe next time we'll get better connection
You're right. Or my timing sucks. Either way, it's bad. There's an absurd amount of wakeup invincibility in this game. Sooo many moves just whiff. >_<
Subscribe to the TouchArcade YouTube channel Any ryu or sagat player should watch this, really really good match. So impressed by xsk samurai, id never even heard of him before canada cup, and he beat tokido :O
I wish Ryu had his LP Shoryuken. And a way to do either Light or Hard Hadoken in here. But those were some good matches.
Why lp shoryuken? Mp is almost always better, except you cant do trade-ultra. Lp and hp fireballs would be really good though
I dunno. I prefer LP Shoryuken. It's safer, it helps gain SP better... hmm. Not too many reasons I guess.
Good games earlier Snooper...I dont know man, when we play I feel like you beat me way to easily, every time we play I come away dissapointed feeling like I could do better, and I played shit, but then it's my oppenent that made me play shit. I'd say I need more training...which I do, but before I played you I was on a huge winning streak beating tons good players with high bp, lots of convincing wins, couple perfects and generally playing really well...when I saw your name come up I literally thought to myself...right it's time for Cammy to Kneel before me or die beneath my heel. Then I proceed to get blown up 3 times in a row...dunno man any tips? This shit is bad for my self-esteem lol
Sorry I dont remember playing you. Who were you using? Edit: I just saw your sig, i remember now youre the viper/bison player. Well viper has a pretty rough time against cammy. You have to play really defensive. Lots of seismos (and feints to mess me up), lots of cr kick-thunder knuckle. On wakeup just block. Divekick beats everything viper can do on wakeup. If i dont time it perfectly then ex burning kick will work though, so thats an option. Also if i dont jump and you think ill just throw then maybe hard thunder knuckle-fadc to safety and then ultra if it hits. Problem is though, cammys backdash is sick so if i know youll hard thunder knuckle and bait it out i can backdash so the thunder knuckle will whiff and you wont be able to fadc. So yeah better to just block. IMO bison beats cammy. Cammy is all about wakeup pressure and bison has so many options to get out of it. I seem to recall you teleporting alot. Thats good sometimes but there are better options: 1.Just block. Seriously this is so underrated. 2.Ex devils reverse. Spend 1 meter and youre completely out of trouble. I dont think cammy can counter this at all. 3.Ex psycho crusher/ex knee press. Both unsafe on block, but good if you think ill try to apply pressure. Ex devils reverse is better though. 4.Jump away. Decent option to replace ex devils reverse if you dot have meter. Loses to uppercuts and divekicks though, so only really good for escaping throws. 5.Throw tech. Has pretty much the same effect as jump away, but makes you look smarter if it works. 6.Ultra. Dont do this. So yeah. Basically just zone cammy out with hard kick and apply some scissor pressure and you should win against most cammys. Dont jump or headstomp though, cammys uppercut has a weird trajectory so it beats headstomp unlike sagats or something. One cool setup that has been used on me before is after doing a blockstring of like 3 cr lks do an ex headstomp.
GGs doctamario. Sorry for playing so random, you kind of have to tske risks against guile to get in I was so pissed off when your ultra hit me when i was behind you, and then guile turned around to finish it off?!? but i guess it evened out when the very last hit of mine randomly counterhitted you lol
Good games man. That random thing really works, you might consider using it against others if you don't already. I really wish there was a System Direction menu in this game. It'd be fun to play with Ultras turned off. But yours is the first good Cammy I've played against, and youve definitely done your homework! Hope we get to play again soon, I'm already plotting my revenge haha!
Na going random is too risky against most characters, but guile cant do too much damage at once, so the risk/reward is usually in cammys favour. Its just a really bad match in general, so if i play my usual divekick pressure game im just gonna lose because sonic boom recovers soooo fast. Sigh, Cammy seems to get such a bad rep on volt. EVERY cammy i have played against has done basically nothing except random uppercuts, random spiral arrows, random hooligans, random ultras, stupid jumpins, just hoping they somehow hit Definitley up for a rematch anytime, your guile is sick.
Cool, thanks man...with Bison originally I was trying to use ex-moves on wake-up, but we had a slightly laggy connection so I kept on mistiming them and getting hit, so I gave that up and just started teleporting out of there. I definitely need to work on playing more effective defence though I'm so used to being aggressive and rushing down, but when I play someone who turns the tables and rushes me down it gives me problems. Funny you mention zoning with hard kick just started practising that the other day in training mode putting the cpu on gruelling and trying to keep them out with nothing but standing kick and crouching punch. I've decided to main Bison so been in training mode trying to learn which moves beat what, punishes and ranges and what not, still got a long way to go though. Need to learn the Cammy match-up, dont run into many online and the ones I do met just spam spiral arrow. But when I meet a good one it's brutal. Good Cammys and Sagats are the two characters that by far give me the most problems.
Cammy really isnt too hard to deal with as bison, just play defensive. Fffan also mentioned sagat being bad for bison, but hes bad for everyone except viper and akuma lol. Watch out for honda though. You dont meet many good ones, but apparently its one of bisons worst matchups. The good thing about bison though is he doesnt have any horribly hard or stupidly easy matchups, so hes a good choice if you only want to play one character. Im still deciding whether to play just cammy or play more chun li to counter my three nemises, honda, guile and gief. Fei long and ryu arent too much fun either, but theyre manageable.
Well, you're definitely not A Cammy you're THE Cammy! But I would think the random thing could catch people off guard. I found that trying to keep you out was a good way to play it because once you got in and got your juju started, there wasn't much I could do, but CAmmy's so damn fast, it can be a tough thing to keep her at bay. Cammy should be renamed "Spammy" online because most players just spam her Spiral Arrow-->Cannon Spike. It's effective against characters who can't recover from blockstun quick enough and put out a move post-SA, but it's boring to deal with. And thank you! I'm not bad for a guy who can't be bothered to practice lol!
