If he's just an anti-social jackoff doing this to get a rise out of people, why should he be allowed to stick around? Do you really need something explicitly spelled out in the TOS to know that it's not a good idea for a message board to allow trolls to have free reign?
I know that I'm just going to get shouted at for saying this, but I'm tired, I've not had any sleep for 17 hours, and I feel like saying it. He didn't actually cause any trouble. The other members did. There, said it. Night all.
These are good points. Why be outraged by a game involving hurting puppies and feel nothing (or excitement) over a game where humans are harmed? As people have been saying (and I did try to make it obvious), this is indeed not a real app. Mods may feel free to move it to a different section or remove the thread altogether. I got to thinking about the topic of hurting animals in one of the Aves threads, where people were upset about shooting the bird. Probably a third of the apps I've got involve killing people - what is it about animals that makes us more sensitive about violence towards them than we are about humans? Are we just accustomed to it by now from a flood of games involving killing people, from the early days of Wolfenstein? Or does it more indicative of the strangeness of human nature, where we approve of wars between nations and disapprove of sex in public?
man, do you have any idea how many dogs i've killed in that game over the last decade and a half. even worse, i took all of their food.
Somebody just close this thread or delete it or something already. It gets on my nerves when I see Puppy Tormentor 3000 when I click on "Upcoming iPhone and iPod Touch Games."
I'm not all that sure if it isn't a mix of both human nature and the games, we've been almost deadened to the effect of killing a human in a game, due to the huge number of games where that is part of the central plot. Whereas we don't have all that many number of games where you slaughter, shoot, or generally kill animals. Except for the odd deer hunter game. And I think what gets people even more worked up, is that the animal you're talking about "Killing" is a Dog. In most societies in the western world, Dogs are thought of as pets, so there's a stronger bond there. It would be interesting to see the reactions if you'd have made the "Game" about "Killing" say, Sheep, or Pigs. Both of which are livestock, and people eat on a daily basis. And folks, why lock the thread? It's a very rare occasion, at least for the amount of times I've been on TA, two people having an intelligent conversation.
I recall most people liking - or at least not having issues with - that game where you ran a chicken slaughterhouse / fast food joint. Depending on the level of violence depicted, and the purpose of that violence, you could probably evoke a range of reactions (for instance, 'Pig tormentor' would probably be less well received than 'Pig slaughterhouse manager'.) Cultural issues do make a big difference in impression. I think that 'Fatted Calf Tormentor' won't go over well in India. I wonder how societies end up with their particular sacred cows. Barring the occasional Chinese restaurant, why don't we eat dogs and cats here? Is it because the prevalence of those animals as pets just makes them unpopular - or even immoral - to eat? And if eating them is considered immoral, shouldn't their fellow mammal - cows - also be off limits? I do try to have a more or less consistent system of morality, and in discussing such issues I think that most social taboos just don't fit in. I think that if I'm going to say that eating a cow is okay, I'd also need to say that eating a dog or a cat is okay. Your thoughts? By the way, is anyone else amused that I did receive one apparently serious request from a prospective beta tester?
Eating an animal is entirely different from torturing an animal. Even if you go with the argument that cows are tortured and so on. The truth is that many people fight for these animals to be humanely killed and that goes with most animals. The issue at hand is torturing animals, namely puppies. I'm sure you'd get the same reaction torturing chicklets/piglets/calves/etc Baby animals are a big taboo. It goes along the lines of babies, they're innocent and they've done nothing wrong. Even if eating dog/cats is ok in some countries, are you going to stand up for your beliefs and say that eating puppies/kittens is also acceptable, what about embryos, is acceptable? Where do you draw the line for food? All aside, its one thing to give your opinion and standing by it. And another entirely to try to justify something that, although maybe not wrong by you, is obviously wrong to a large part of the community. If you want to torture puppies, do it with your own app but when you put something like this for the general public, its obviously going to raise some eyebrows. So I dont understand why you act like its something normal and that should be "ok" when its so obvious its not.
Knowing it was a joke, I found it very funny. I wonder if Apple would allow this if it were real...sure hope not.
If iDrop Dead is anything to go by, they'd allow it then phone the devs and tell them they have to remove all puppies from the update.
Whoever developed this app deserve to be tortured by the methods from the screenshots and then left to rot; GTFO out of the forum if the opening poster is the developer. Heh not to mention it has the poorest quality ever, makes Khalid Shaikh (sp?) look like a professional and original graphics artist when compared. Thank god it's still in the "upcoming" section, even with Apple's team of incapable reviewers there's simply no way they can approve something outrageous like this.
An eye for an eye, how very... ridiculous. You seem to be all about two wrongs somehow making a right.
