People need to learn to be patient and just play what they have already. Pocket Academy was only just released and already people are complaining like spoiled little kids because they want more already. The fact is they are a JAPANESE company, so of course games are going to come out quicker there. it's common sense. also, like I said earlier, their main focus is mobile phone games in Japan and has been for many years, so they constantly have those to make in between iOS and Android games. they're not just gonna put them on hold because a few people want them to bring their games overseas faster.
How I feel is irrelevant. There is absolutely nothing you can point to in their responses that is rude or abrasive. Nothing. Anything you are offended by is purely your own inference, and that's your problem, not theirs; you are choosing to be offended by something that simply is not inherently offensive. It's that simple. You are correct in asserting that you are allowed to feel however you want, of course; it just happens that it isn't Kairosoft's fault you feel that way, but yours. Take some responsibility instead of blaming others. Thanks for supporting my point: second language == not primary language. I assume you're familiar with the many books and websites devoted to things like so-called "Chinglish", or the countless foreign RPGs that mangle the English language when translated. If language did not happen to be a very real concern, and accurate/successful translations were a non-issue, these things wouldn't exist. Well, no, you didn't. If you had addressed it and understood it you wouldn't still be making the argument you are now, which hinges around willfully overlooking language and culture differences in order to claim offense. It's not a problem; that's the whole point. You obviously didn't read what I just wrote. In fact, considering your paragraph went on to waffle about something I just answered, I'm not entirely sure you know what your point is. Please state why you believe their games should be released at the same time for both Japan and English-language markets, and then give a detailed explanation as to why they are not doing so. The fact that you have to preface your statements with "I don't know why they..." makes your situation blindingly clear. No, you clearly don't, so why are you making demands as if you do? You made a claim that they wouldn't do something that they have done, which has very clearly caused more upset customers than a confirmed and met release date would have. In future, choose your examples with more care. Moving on. Unfortunately, this qualifies as the second-largest load of bollocks that can be put forward as an argument in this situation. You have absolutely no right whatsover, at all, to be "involved" in the development decisions, release date, or any other internal processes of the company. The sooner you realise this, the sooner you'll stop building yourself up for disappointment. This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the professionalism of a company, and I'm not sure how many times that needs to be stated before you understand it. KS have no obligation to provide you with information about their projects, and you have no entitlement to know anything. Information provided is a bonus; debating the value and usefulness of that information for marketing/sales/other is an argument, but an entirely separate one. Attacking them for "not involving you", as if they have committed some major sin, is childish. This is, in fact, something Blizzard has to remind WoW players about every so often (in far blunter terms than anything KS has ever used): in their case, even though the design team likes interacting with their playerbase and receiving feedback, the players are not part of the design team, have no actual say in the ultimate direction of the game, and have to realise that they have zero ownership of the process just because they're participants in the game itself and occasionally get to talk to Ghostcrawler. Again, you've not been able to point to a single thing Kairosoft has posted that has actually been rude or abrasive; you've only been able to tell us how you chose to interpret their comments as offensive, which is 100% your hangup, not theirs. Have they told you to piss off? Stop wasting their time? Laughed at you? Insulted you? No. Let's have a look at what they have said: "Please note that we are a busy company so we may not be able to answer all the questions sorry for the inconvenience." Absolutely fair - hell, they even apologised for the inconvenience of not being able to answer all questions asked of them. Did you somehow miss that in your crusade? "Please note that the Japanese games that you all want to be translated and be released in other countries might take a while quite a while." Repeated text aside, absolutely fair. "New games will be released so please enjoy the games you have now " Absolutely fair. "We will continue the process but we won't promise when games will come out" Absolutely fair, and came after the genuinely rude user comment "Lower your prices, your games aren't that great." Yeah. And, of course, the big one you obviously missed, in response to release dates: "we can't give the date there are rules". That's the answer to your previous question about when the game would be released, by the way. Not one of these responses from Kairosoft could be considered "rude" or "abrasive" by a reasonable person, and I can guarantee not one of them was intended as such. Irrelevant; that has nothing to do with the establishment of a confirmed release date. In fact, a very clear example of a similar thing to what KS is dealing with is the way that there was so much backlash about the "delay" of WoW's expansions, when Blizzard had never given a release date in the first place, and all the "delays" stemmed entirely from mistaken player expectations. Why do you believe you're owed any games at all, let alone ones on a ridiculously short schedule? How is Kairosoft's release schedule, profits, marketing or business plan any of your business? I suspect you'll find that you have no answer to that question that doesn't make you sound massively entitled. If they decided that it simply wasn't worthwhile to continue translating games, that'd still be completely fair and reasonable. The fact that they take a couple of months instead of the month you demand - based purely on your own desire/greed, mind you, and no knowledge of their process - is their business, not yours; they have no obligation to explain themselves or their decisions. Again, this has nothing at all to do with "rudeness", lack of professionalism, or anything of the sort. You want to see more Kairosoft games come out. Great, we all do. That, however, is the entirety of your involvement with the company beyond purchasing the game when it is released; any disappointment you feel due to expectations you have beyond that (either in terms of release date or communication) is wholly your problem - and your fault. Trying to portray this as Kairosoft somehow mistreating you just makes you appear ridiculous. And before you try to dispute that and say that it doesn't, I'm telling you that yes, from the viewpoint of somebody coming into this situation from the outside and witnessing the entitled behaviour, bad attitudes and accusations being thrown at KS, the people acting in this manner appear ridiculous.
I wanted to be able to confirm/deny the availability of the title in question, but a cursory search didn't turn up a result. Would you be able to provide me a link to the (preferably English-language) PC version of Grand Prix Story, which is what the poster on Facebook was asking about? Just to confirm, you do realise that the post was from an German/English-language poster who wanted a PC version of Grand Prix Story, right, not just somebody who wanted random Kairosoft games in Japanese?
umm I don't know where you got your info, but you're completely wrong. the only games that are for PC are GDS and GDS2.
Both sky and I did. Our perception is our reality. I never said anything they said was offensive, I said it comes off as blunt and rude. If sky or I take their words as being rude, i'm sure others do too. Ofc we like that KS is responding, but it is in the manner that they respond that is the problem. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm saying KS should step up their relations/customer service so it becomes a more inclusive gaming experience. you mean engrish? And i do not think you have many foreign friends. I would argue that many Asian people understand the english language on a more technical level, but yes, their execution is lacking. But seriously, translating a word like FUN should take little to no effort w/ little or no localization problems. once again, many people have played these games w/ limited jp language background in this forum, so yeah, these games are not super complicated to understand even if you are a non-native japanese speaker. No, i was simply saying that your point is black/white, there is no grey. The fact of the matter is it is easier for people to translate to a language that is their second language. ofc I couldn't speak Swahili, but I am speaking english to you as my second language. I could translate a Korean game relatively easy. My point was it is pretty easy to find foreigners who can speak english, as it has the most 'utility' and inherent value. and i'm sure there are a ton of culture differences in the words FUN, SPA, GAME, etc.. like i said, this game isn't earthbound. there are not a ton of pop-culture references that you would only get if you are japanese. you just want to argue. you have no proof that the jp does better than the american market. you just say things that sound "accurate" and use them as fact. clearly you don't know, either. and i never said they should be released at the same time. i said they should be released in a more-well distributed way. i said it would be nice if they released the games at once w/ multilanguage support. stop twisting my words around, which you have done w/ almmost everything i said. and yes, i said 'i don't know why' as an observation, not a fact and not an ldo. why? you aren't the boss of me or any others. it was a relevant example and i got my point across, which was the point. don't tell others what to do, k bud? you mad. i was just making a general observation about KS that others obviously feel the same way about. i understand what you are saying, but you keep shutting others out and twisting their words around. seems to me like you just want to argue. lol, you assume i want to be apart of development decisions? no, i want them to talk to us about what games they plan on translating next or when we can expect the game. i do not care about in which order they conduct their day-to-day business, just as sky said, their pr could be a lot better. also, look at this whole upcoming games board. look at the hype the games get and the excitement people get from it. i'm saying from a business stand-point it makes more sense for KS to be more open on the dates and what games they are translating to build a hype. why do you think so many dev teams do this exact thing that i am mentioning?
never said i did. i'm not telling them how to change the game or what business decisions to make. that is why i prefaced my statement w/ 'i don't know why.' you do realize you keep saying the same thing over and over? that was a carbon copy of an earlier statement you made in this same post. both sky and i have pulled up multiple posts that we think are rude and blunt. as i said way earlier in this thread, it might be due to a language barrier, but they could offer a better explanation. like in your post below, they could have said No! but you can play some of our pc games but they are not translated in english. it let me ask you a question, if you ask a person how they are doing today and they say 'fine,' then you ask them what they did today and they say 'nothing,' then you ask them if they have any plans later and they say 'no.' isn't this person's blutness and shortness considered rude? i don't know many people who act like that, anywhere. most people who speak english as their 2nd language will say something, like forgive my english it is not my first language. it could be construed as being rude. ok, but this isn't WoW and the customer base is a lot smaller. i'm pretty sure WotL will not face any drop in sale due to its delays. and once again, never said it was. i'm just saying it would be a good business decision to branch out into other markets in a better, more efficient, and friendly way. rather than providing answers like 'no.' nope, never said that. i said they are treating the customers bad, not me directly. they are going to release games, i'm not complaining about that... you didn't read anything i said, did you? just read what you wanted to read and twisted it so it suits you and yes, i was saying that KS has bad customer service. just like others claim that certain retailers have bad customer service. i guess we shouldn't say anything about it and let businesses treat the consumer however they want. we should all just shut up and let companies treat us however they want. you can type out a reply, but i'm not going to address it. i've stated how i feel, not how everyone else should feel. it is obvious that i am not the only one who feels this way. i'm not going to waste anymore time replying to your redundant statements. so go ahead and make another 6 page reply, b/c i'm not going to address it.
If you are saying it is rude, you are saying that it would offend somebody, i.e. by definition it is offensive. Stop shifting the goalposts; whether or not somebody could potentially understand a half-done or untranslated game wasn't what we were discussing, and if the direction you are heading is that Kairosoft should just start shovelling half-done work for the sake of releasing content because it would be "good enough" for some, you can stop right there. Your guesses as to how easy it would be to localise aside, Kairosoft has already also stated that there is more to releasing games in different markets than simple translation work. There is more evidence for my position than exists to the contrary. But, if you disagree with me, your argument would that Kairosoft's business does better in foreign markets than it does at home, then? If so, why is the majority of their software only available in the Japanese market? Think, what was it that lead you to the position of arguing that they should be releasing more games for their western audience, and pointing out the skewed ratio of available Japanese titles to English titles? Sigh. You claimed that the fact that they weren't released 1:1 in both markets was "the problem". Whether regularly staggered or simultaneously released, you clearly proposed that Kairosoft should be releasing a game into each market in equal measure, without considering the reasons why they're not already doing so. Stop stomping your feet. You made a mistake, and the classy thing to do would have been to acknowledge that, not throw a tantrum in my direction. "You're not the boss of me." Seriously? Again, in future pay attention to the examples you use; your point wasn't made, because the example you gave contradicted what you were trying to express. You've already been told by a Kairosoft representative that they can't say when the next game is to be released. It doesn't matter how much you kick the back of the seat and repeat "Are we there yet?" Why do you think so many successful real businesses (i.e. not $1 hobbyist appmakers) don't? You quite clearly implied it when you said "it is that KS isn't involving the consumer in anything what-so-ever. When they do it comes off blunt and rude." Them not "involving you" is neither blunt nor rude. It is neutral. It is business. Most businesses in the world don't "involve you" in their processes either, other than in the provision of goods or services. You've spent a good while here stating that they should be releasing more games for the English-speaking market, and releasing them faster. Or have you forgotten your own arguments? What possible benefit would they get by telling somebody that? "Hey, the game you want isn't available on PC, and the other ones are all in Japanese." How is that helpful to a non-Japanese-speaking person looking for a particular game, one that isn't available in the first place? The poster was asking for a PC version of GPS, which doesn't seem to exist, and it can be assumed (ask him if you'd like) that he doesn't speak Japanese, and wanted an English language version. Kairosoft giving him your proposed reply doesn't help him. It could be more correctly construed as giving an accurate answer. Grow up. What exactly did you want them to write? A long paragraph saying "no" in terms designed to make you feel better about the bad day you just had? For somebody who, in this very post, said "i'm not telling them how to change the game or what business decisions to make", you certainly seem to be telling them what business decisions to make in the most absolutely literal sense of the phrase. Are you, or are you not, a customer? If you are, then you are part of that set you are referencing. If you are not, then you've given even more of a reason why they would have no need to listen to you, given that you have no relevancy to their business. Drop the martyr act. We're not talking about "businesses", we're talking about Kairosoft, and thus far you haven't provided any example of Kairosoft treating you poorly, other than your complaint that they didn't give you an answer they have stated they are not allowed to give. I would say that is probably in your best interest. I too have better things to do than watch you self-destruct.
Now this sounds interesting! I don't want to get my hopes up but damn they are missing out on a lot of money if they don't port it to iOS too. Hopefully we'll hear something in the near future.
Why do we keep seeing replies that are going on for ages. Can't we go back to the good old days when replies were short and sweet?
Just a slight update. It looks like KS is indeed banning people from their FB page. On the upside, it looks like they are answering a lot more questions. http://kairosoft.net/kairopark/osushi.html http://kairosoft.net/kairopark/edotowns.html http://kairosoft.net/kairopark/restaurant.html And those games look amazing. EDIT: They posted pics of GDS2 up too, so it looks like that might be coming soon as well?
TA just did an article about their FB page. http://toucharcade.com/2011/07/12/kairosoft-has-a-facebook-page-is-announcing-some-cool-stuff/ don't forget to check out the link at the bottom as it goes to my hand on preview of Department Store Story
No, but there's a soccer player story : http://kairosoft.net/kairopark/soccer.html It's Japan only though, so I guess I have to download the .apk from a website and pay when it comes to the USA.
Kairosoft just confirmed it, news first broken by Kairospot (the fansite), glad to see it coming soon: http://kairospot.net/threads/mega-mall-story-confirmed-for-ios.555/
